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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #150 on: September 23, 2008, 02:45:36 am »
your right about Snake being top, but MK is in a league of his own apparently.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #151 on: September 23, 2008, 03:39:15 am »
Snake > All... Meta's good, but he can't touch snake...

at least as far as I heard...

I stopped playing (and caring about) Brawl once I saw the "top players" vids...

talk about shittastic...
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #152 on: September 23, 2008, 07:11:52 am »
You're all wrong.  Sonic is top.
No seriously, the ONLY way I can consistently beat my kid brother is if I'm playing as Sonic.  Or maybe it's just that I'm used to the character.  Or maybe, considering my #2 and #3 are ROB and Jigglypuff, I'm just weird.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #153 on: September 23, 2008, 09:38:03 am »
Or maybe your brother just sucks and you're a fanboy.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #154 on: September 23, 2008, 10:40:29 am »
Toon Link pwns you all, fools.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #155 on: September 23, 2008, 01:26:28 pm »
yeah sonic blows.  having so few kill moves has gimped him and he's not like MK who can avoid that drawback (not to mention having more kill moves than sonic), sonic's speed doesn't compensate for it either. 

I've killed sonic's with ganon, but that doesn't mean ganon is above sonic.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #156 on: September 23, 2008, 05:47:42 pm »
Snake's a beefy dude, and Meta's a potent fellow too...but compared to Melee, Brawl's balanced.

I'm more inclined to complain about Pikachu than anyone else though, if only because thunder jolt is good for pressuring and Pikachu plays a very good defensive game (dsmash, chain throws, wop dairs to outmaneuver most aerials). Basically, you're needled into going on offense and exposing yourself, you never get to engage Pikachu on your own terms. I expect Pikachu to be high tier.

And personally, I nominate my Ganondorf, Zelda, Olimar, Lucario, PT, DDD, and Ness for god tier.

Segue, Sonic sucks, ignoring his poor kill potential he can't really combo (ignoring spindash>aerial and jab fakes, nothing links up). Sonic can potshot, but when you break even in damage when your opponent makes four mistakes to your one, you don't stand a good chance.


Also, Mike said he would host a Brawl tournament, and he never did anything with it! If people are still interested, I'll set one up in the style of my MKDS tournament. Basically, there would be ridiculous conditions to satisfy in battle against pools of people, and an arbitrarily assigned point value for each placing. Every few challenges, the low scorer would be dropped. Exactly like my MKDS tournament! Though probably without a full revival after the final.


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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #157 on: September 23, 2008, 06:58:05 pm »
I'll join...provided my wireless router stops being lame.  I may just get a new one.
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« Reply #158 on: September 23, 2008, 07:16:55 pm »
Count me in for the Brawl tournament.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #159 on: September 23, 2008, 07:32:28 pm »
Have you guys even watched the nationals?

and no, this game is not more broken than SSBM, but it's way up there, especially when compared to SSB, or GGXX...

That, and the matches are BORING... 90% of HL brawl matches are camping w/ snake against a brutally psycho MK.

Snake misses, MK gets ahold of him and esssentially tears in him half...
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Snake keeps the pressure on, and then FT or DT or ABA's MK to death...
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #160 on: September 23, 2008, 10:20:34 pm »
I'll join the brawl tourney. I may not get THAT far though. is it a team or 1 on 1?

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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #161 on: September 24, 2008, 07:34:10 am »
I'll join also granted that the matches will be at night (Eastern Standard Time... >_>). Also, fu all for saying Sonic sucks. :/
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #162 on: September 24, 2008, 05:29:16 pm »
Also, fu all for saying Sonic sucks. :/

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192028
Quote
Top
Meta Knight
Snake
King Dedede
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
R.O.B.

High
Marth
Wario
Lucario
Donkey Kong
Diddy
Pikachu
Ice Climbers
Kirby
Pit
Wolf

Middle
Toon Link
Olimar
Fox
Zelda
Zero Suit Samus
Bowser
Luigi
Peach
Ike
Sheik

Low
Lucas
Ness
Mario
Pokémon Trainer
Samus
Yoshi
Sonic
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Link
Captain Falcon




Also, Tournament results.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165954


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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #163 on: September 24, 2008, 05:43:15 pm »
I thought Toon Link was higher... *shrugs*

Poor Falcon and Renku got nerfed so hard they cried...
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #164 on: September 24, 2008, 10:11:26 pm »
Damn, lol, apparently I use only low tier characters. Maybe that's why I'm not good. <_<
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #165 on: September 24, 2008, 11:07:48 pm »
high tiers are for those who don't want to work at learning the game :(

I could take MK and whoop people easily, but take Falcon and I have to be on my toes for the entire match.

matter of fact, that's who I''ll use most of the time during the tourny...disregard I like G&W and Falco...Luigi and Ness gets some play time in the middle.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #166 on: September 24, 2008, 11:10:42 pm »
I like marth, it wasn't until recently I learned he was high tier :/

Apparently Pit is low in the high tier too, so *gonk* as rolk says
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #167 on: September 24, 2008, 11:29:59 pm »
...how the hell is R.O.B. that high? ....I call auto BS on that tier.

EDIT: I want an explanation for this one.

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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #168 on: September 24, 2008, 11:32:37 pm »
You'd be amazed.
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #169 on: September 25, 2008, 04:19:35 pm »
ROB is top tier because he has an amazing aerial game, ridiculous recovery, the gyroscope shuts down any ground advance (the gyroscope),  the laser has broken knockback and range, and the dsmash lets ROB play a strong wakeup game. Basically, once ROB fires that gyroscope he can camp you to death while spamming the laser, or wreck you in the air with his superior aerials, and if you try a reckless rush he can spotddodge and punish you with that dsmash.

Mind, it's pretty obvious that the release of this tier list was premature. Most of the low/bottom tier characters are just underplayed, so we don't know their full potential.

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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #170 on: September 25, 2008, 05:26:03 pm »
...wow.
No seriously, my top five are Sonic, ROB, Jigglypuff, Luigi, and Captain Falcon.  Ranked by number of times I've beaten my brother with them.  And shall I point out he typically chooses Kirby?
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Re: The Same Brawl Topic Again! But not nuked by switching to a server backup.
« Reply #171 on: September 25, 2008, 06:34:12 pm »
Sonic's my fave, hands down, but even I know his limitations...

Mostly, it includes a certain overpowered secret operative clone bitch....

or a sword-wielding puffball... >_>

But honestly, while I tend to lose a lot with him, Ike's probably my best character (as in, compared to how well my other characters play against their ranks, he's highest...  I think I play at about 70% of Ike's max, while everyone else is at 55% max...  hard to explain, sorry)

Snake plays a lot like Testament from GGXX, if Testament had OHKO techs that didn't have lag >_>

as far as wins, it's Marth/pika/falco... and sadly, while I kinda like falco in this game, I hate how he's changed since Melee...

Play me in SSB though, and feel the wrath ^_^
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« Reply #172 on: September 27, 2008, 05:58:27 pm »
Ooh, a Brawl tournament. I'll be very rusty due to not playing for a few months, but I'm all for it. I'll enter.
     

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« Reply #173 on: September 29, 2008, 07:48:11 am »
includes a certain overpowered secret operative clone *#&($....

or a sword-wielding puffball... >_>
Haha, kid bro's two favorite characters.

Actually reminds me ... I won't be in the tourney, but here's an idea for a special type of match that KidBro came up with.  2P Snake vs. Snake in Final Destination, turn off all items that cannot be thrown or used as projectiles.  Neither player is allowed to cross the diamond in the center of the field; game is fought ENTIRELY with projectiles.  Penalty for anyone who crosses the center diamond is that the defending player gets to lay into him until he leaves (only used rarely though).  It's actually quite fun and quite amusing ... watching KidBro hit the soccerball with the guided rocket is very entertaining, even (especially) when he successfully hits me with it.
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« Reply #174 on: December 21, 2008, 11:56:13 pm »
Whoa! G+W is top teir! Hmm... kinda explains why i'm so good w/ him i guess...

NEwayz I use G+W, MK, and Falco as mains... I wanna get better w/ falco though... Any Tips?


Looking back: i'm kinda happy i don't use meta too much. He's soo broken and that makes things way too easy. (Plus he's my punishment character <<:)

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« Reply #175 on: December 25, 2008, 03:47:33 pm »
Minus, don't censor other peoples statements when QUOTING them... most find it insulting
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